Refuel to Reignite: Practical Health Tip for Business Owners w/ Emma Terrazas

Refuel to Reignite: Practical Health Tip for Business Owners w/ Emma Terrazas

The typical HFG episode focuses on how to grow our solo businesses but today I want to focus on taking care of ourselves.

Emma Terrazas joins me on the podcast to help us jumpstart our approach to wellness and overall performance

Emma works with CEOs and business owners helping them build healthy fitness & nutrition habits in order to optimize their businesses.

If you are not where you want to be physically or mentally this episode is for you.

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Brett Trainor (00:01.163)
Hi Emma, welcome to the podcast.

Emma Terrazas (00:03.702)
Hey there, thanks for having me.

Brett Trainor (00:05.323)
No, no, it's definitely my pleasure. And, you know, one thing on this podcast, we talk a lot about, you know, the Gen Z what's your next, and it's almost all about the business, right? Which is important, right? What do we do with the revenue streams? Where are those things that come? But I don't talk nearly enough about the, what I would guess, the personal side of it, the wellbeing side of this. And so who better to have on the podcast than you to, to kind of help us rethink or.

think differently about how we approach the health and wellness now that we're on our own and nobody's telling us what to do anymore. So anyway, with that intro, maybe to start just let the audience know a little bit about who you're working with and the type of work that you do with them and then we'll get into

Emma Terrazas (00:38.455)

Emma Terrazas (00:49.322)
Yeah. So hello, my name is Emma Terazas. I'm a health and life coach for entrepreneurs, CEOs or high level execs who really wanna take control back over their health and have maybe put their health on the back burner because life has just happened, which we all can attest to, especially after COVID and during COVID. That was a really rough time for all of us. And what I really helped them do is create

and reframe what health could look like for them through routine creation, mindset shifts around how to eat, more education about food and nutrition, and ultimately really just solidifying how you want to show up every day and then taking actions to make sure that you're eating right, working out, and again, in a way that is sustainable and fits your lifestyle, not what...

you know, your neighbor did, or your best friend's sister, how she lost weight is gonna work for you. Like, it's all personalized, so that you can truly show up powerfully in your life as you.

Brett Trainor (01:58.099)
Yeah, I like that. I think that's, it's so important because too often we see just, you know, lift heavy weights, don't worry about cardio or do cardio. Don't put heavy weights, eat all eat the Mediterranean diet. No eat nothing, but, um, no carbs, those types of things. And you're doing the research on you. You take more of a holistic approach to all of it, right? It's just not one thing. And I think that's, you know, where.

Again, I've spent a lot of time trying to amateur sleuthing into this, but so maybe, maybe take us, what are some of the common things your, your clients that are coming to you, what have they recognized and said, Hey, I'm doing this wrong or I'm not doing it. Um, to get to, you know, obviously they're, they've realized something, but I'm guessing the vast majority of us don't realize we're doing something wrong that makes sense.

Emma Terrazas (02:46.238)
Yeah, yeah. It really, it depends on the person. And a lot of people do know what they're doing wrong, but it's just so hard to stop and change. And like you said, like doing research and trying to change, it takes up a lot of time and energy when you're already stressed with family life, work life. So it's like, of course, things just kind of get put on the back burner. And it's, I just want people to know that it's okay. Because I think

we really judge ourselves and people feel really guilty and that just doesn't help, right? You're not helping yourself. So instead I really try to invite people to look like, okay, let's just take a breath and see what's actually going on, right? Like, can we look at your day and say, okay, this is exactly what I'm doing. This is what I'm eating. But anyway, so back to your question, kind of scrambled for a second, but.

what people in this day and age are coming to me with is that COVID really kicked them to the ground, right? And again, I want to, I think people forget that this was a huge event and it's not like we can just snap our fingers and everything's back to normal. So I wouldn't, I'm not surprised that everyone is in, and some people are different, right? But we're still trying to move through this and some of my clients now have gained 50.

pounds plus a little less, a little more, depending on the person during COVID. And they're just really trying to get back to feeling like themselves, feeling healthier, eating more consistently. That's something else I see is a lot of people skip breakfast and then they get home at the end of the day or they're done working and they're exhausted because they haven't eaten all day. And then how do you give time and space to your family if you don't feel good? So it's really...

The nutrition, I would say, is a huge part of the work that we do together.

Brett Trainor (04:45.083)
Okay. Now it's awesome. And you're right. It was, you know, kid got two ways. I like to be outside. So COVID didn't necessarily hurt it too much. But just getting out of that routine. And, you know, one of the things that I found when I left corporate was structured in a sense, right, you know, the days were this and you could build a workout in before or try to get at lunch or after or not at all, right, and those types of things. But one of the things that I found when I transitioned into working for myself was you do have a

a whole lot more free time. So you're thinking perfect, right? I'm going to get in the best shape of my life. I'm going to eat well, all these other things, but yet it tends to either. We just focus on the business or we never get to the actual health, you know, and the fitness piece of it. So, so how do we, how do we fix that? Is there a way to fix that?

Emma Terrazas (05:34.754)
Yeah, that's exactly what happened to me too. I was in a nine to five coaching lacrosse at the school and then I still worked in their office while I was growing this business. And I thought the exact same thing. Okay, I was a former athlete. I know exactly what to do to work out and like eat better and I'm gonna have all this time. And then it's like business, business. And the next thing you know, you're like, oh my gosh, I don't feel good. Like I really don't like the way I look in the mirror that much, my pants don't fit, my clothes don't fit.

Brett Trainor (06:00.844)

Emma Terrazas (06:04.598)
And you never think it's gonna happen to you, but it inevitably does, exactly. And think about it, like our lifestyle just changes so much and it makes sense that you have to go back to the drawing board with your health and your routines, right, if you're living two completely different lives at this point. So it's all an experiment is something I really invite my clients to think about when...

Brett Trainor (06:07.893)
until it does.

Emma Terrazas (06:34.802)
And in this case, your audience, you're changing again, lifestyles, like, because going back to like the pressure and feeling guilty, if you're not perfect, and it's like, if it's an experiment, then you don't have any really judgment, you're just simply seeing what's going to happen. And then you taking action is what's going to lead to more motivation. And what I love to think about too, is a lot of people feel like they failed their diets, or they

They fall off the wagon really easily. But a good thing about these particular experiences is that you now have more data to show what works for you, what doesn't work for you. So that you can, again, pivot. It's all about pivoting. For example, one of my clients, we have gotten her to 6,000 steps a day. She was at under 2,000 when we first worked together. And...

Brett Trainor (07:18.752)

Emma Terrazas (07:30.962)
Now she's at 6,000 and her mindset is every single day I'm getting 6,000 no matter what. But right now it's a tax, mini tax season for her. She owns her own corporate tax accounting firm. So she is like so busy constantly on the computer and now what she says is again like we just focused on what she needed to do and just continued on from there.

It's an experiment.

Brett Trainor (08:02.235)
Yeah, no, I like that. And again, it took me probably three plus years to figure out to what you said. So I'm hoping with today's episode, we can shortcut it for folks to get to get started, then you can start to tweak because, you know, I found again, if you don't, for me, if I don't track it, right, then I don't, it doesn't change it. So I started tracking sleep.

Brett Trainor (08:32.229)
enough protein for what I was working out now that I shifted so I don't look at calories anymore but I'm making sure I get the you know the 150 grams of protein a day and that's completely shift I'm like damn why didn't I do this forever but to your point once I started tracking I could see what was working and what's not working and so hopefully for everybody's out there that's thinking about hey I need to make change you know that's what Emma's gonna help us do is you know jump start

Emma Terrazas (08:42.763)

Brett Trainor (09:02.029)
you're going right, it's got kind of that 80 20 rule, right? If we can just get the 20% rate, you're gonna get 80% of the benefits and then we can start tweaking. So so I do like I said, the full approach, the mental, the nutrition, the fitness, so we're in block one, somebody's coming to you today, you don't have to give away all your trade secrets, but just say, hey, if you want to do this yourself, here's, here's how I would the framework for you to get everything.

to get started. I mean, is that too overly simplified or can we do that?

Emma Terrazas (09:32.222)
Yes. No. So, what I usually do with people is first, I am an investigator of their lives. I'm asking all these questions so I could get a better well-rounded idea of what's going on with you. And that's what I want you to ask yourself too. And James Clear says this, the author of Atomic Habits is you have to look at your habits now. You had to take inventory because you can't change what you don't know is broken. Right?

And again, you're not broken, like everything's changeable. But the first thing is, is I would really just go through your day to day. And it's really nice to have another set of eyes on this process, because we're such on autopilot these days, right? You just get up and you move through the day. But when you really, again, sit down, you're like, okay, what do I do? So that's the first thing. And also really take a look at what you're eating. I would track.

or even just write down in a diary, every single thing that you eat in a day. And something I like to think about is, if you don't know what you're eating in the week for lunch and dinner and stuff, you're kind of unprepared. I hate to say that. And that's just another decision that you have to make that is causing decision fatigue. And especially if you are ready to take that leap, as we all know it is,

Brett Trainor (10:44.77)

Emma Terrazas (10:56.95)
Brett, you know, you too, you have taken the leap to working for yourself, that confidence and energy is imperative for you to feel like confident and good that you can do this, right? Because think about fueling yourself with the right foods and 20% of your calorie intake during the day, every day is to your brain. So if you were barely eating,

be able to be productive and focused and be the leader that you know you are. So it's really that concept of take care of yourself so you can then give your energy to others. So tracking I think is great. I love that. One of my clients even just sends me photos of everything she eats and she says it and everyone's different. Sometimes I have people do that. Other times we're tracking our macros or just our protein. That is huge. And I, for anyone who's wanting to just

Brett Trainor (11:37.783)

Emma Terrazas (11:57.258)
do that as a start is try for one pound. No, wait, I can never say this right. One one gram of protein per body pound. So I'm 130 pounds, I'm gonna have 130 pounds, 130 grams of protein. Or if you're if you feel like, again, maybe you have gained some weight and you can't eat like

Brett Trainor (12:06.956)

Emma Terrazas (12:25.514)
you know, 170, 200 grams of protein, you can do 0.8 grams of protein per pound of body weight, if that makes sense too. So that's a great start.

Brett Trainor (12:34.067)
Yeah, no, and it's so true. I've just, it's amazing to me that nobody talks about the protein as much. And I'm sure there's counter arguments, but going to your tracking, right? I think you go through, you know, before I started losing the weight, I'm like, I know what I eat in a day. I'm not eating that much. But then when you write it down, you're like, holy shit, it all adds up. And you know, it's as we get older.

Emma Terrazas (12:55.127)


Brett Trainor (12:59.583)
you can't eat as much. And so it's the unfortunate truth, you can work out but the end of the day, I know you lead with nutrition and I'm with you can't what's that old saying you can't out exercise calories, right? It's just there's something like that. So yeah, I love that tip. So just track what you're eating in high level, you'll be shocked at

Emma Terrazas (13:11.994)
diet. Yep.

Brett Trainor (13:19.679)
you know, maybe the snacking or the other things. And, you know, again, going back to the protein, I think, I think that makes a lot of sense. And the other thing you mentioned that I really like is the accountability partner, right? Just even if it's there, you know, Hey, I've got to send these pictures. Maybe I'm not going to eat that, um, as part of it. So, so, okay. So this is good. So nutrition, just start with where you're at up the protein.

Emma Terrazas (13:22.881)

Emma Terrazas (13:31.697)

Emma Terrazas (13:37.326)

Emma Terrazas (13:45.748)

Brett Trainor (13:46.291)
First step is what just reduce the number of calories or what you're eating or how it was so alright So now I've tracked it. I've seen some areas that I can prove You know, is there you know a specific diet you prefer or again as a customized? I don't put words in your mouth. So tell me alright, so I've tracked it. I found some areas. What do we do next?

Emma Terrazas (13:51.607)

Emma Terrazas (14:03.99)

Right, right. So again, depending on your goals and also what I see a lot too, it's not always just about, or like defaulting to I'm eating too much. It's almost a lot of times I see you're not eating enough. And that's very kind of counterintuitive to what we think about with the diet culture and what we think and what we've been taught to lose weight is just cut your calories, cut your carbs. But in reality,

Brett Trainor (14:22.307)

Emma Terrazas (14:34.87)
All these things are very important. Carbs are our number one source of energy. So if you just completely cut carbs, maybe you're doing the keto diet. And I don't believe in any one single diet for anybody. It just depends on your lifestyle, your needs, your wants, everything. And I think anything can really work. So.

Emma Terrazas (15:03.958)
You've tracked it, now what? You've increased your protein. If you are eating, I would say for anybody really, under 1200 calories a day, that is not good. That is not good at all. So this is a way to think about this too. It's like thinking about a fire, right? You add more wood to the fire and it gets bigger and bigger. That's what happens to our metabolism too. When you actually add more fuel to the fire, the right kind of fuel.

Brett Trainor (15:17.5)

Emma Terrazas (15:32.206)
And going back to your question, like what kind of foods, thinking of 80-20, you mentioned this already, but there's another 80-20 when it comes to food intake, 80% of what you're eating is from the earth, nutrient-dense food. So if your ancestors ate it, you could eat it. They're not, you know, they're not going through boxes. They're not putting stuff in the microwave. So think of that, 80%, whole nutrient-dense food in your diet. The other 20% can be really anything you want.

So that's another good rule of thumb. So making sure that looking at your list and being like, dang, and just being truthful. Like you have to look at yourself in the mirror and say, what is actually happening?

Brett Trainor (16:15.191)

Yeah. If it's, it's not going to work. If you're not honest with yourself, you have to be honest with yourself or yeah. And I, I do love that too, with the, uh, if you, you know, if it wasn't, or if the food wasn't around a hundred years ago, it's probably not good for you. It's I mean, it's biology, right? I mean, that's what we ate. And I a hundred percent agree with that. The other thing that I've really tried to, um, eliminate is sugar. I mean, my reading, and again, you can confirm or deny that sugar may be

Emma Terrazas (16:21.995)

Brett Trainor (16:47.941)
thing that we could we could put into our bodies but just curious where your stance is on that.

Emma Terrazas (16:54.09)
Yeah, I agree. I mean, if it's processed sugar, added sugar, definitely take a look at the back of the ingredients labels. If it says added sugar, anything more than like three grams, five grams, you gotta watch out for that. And something that's super interesting, going back to my client who, we raised her steps and we also completely just focused in on food.

She's not going to the gym. She's not working out. All we've done is changed her food, her mindset around food and her steps. And she's lost 42 pounds in four months. She's not even tracking. Like I said, she's sending me photos, right? This is insane because something else that has happened now is that she, because she's been so focused on whole nutrient dense food, she can have anything she wants to eat, right? We know this. There's never a time where I'm like, you can't eat this. You can't eat that.

Go for it, you know, as long as you have your other nutrients in set in the books, fine. So she goes back now to treats that she used to really enjoy and she can't even finish them because they taste like fake to her. And that is really the beauty of this process and the lifestyle change because you genuinely change your palette and your taste buds to prefer the natural.

Brett Trainor (18:07.487)
Yeah, that's awesome.

Emma Terrazas (18:20.714)
stuff because she's eating strawberries, she's eating blueberries. And it's like that's so much sweeter and more delicious to her than that like ice cream, whatever she was having before.

Brett Trainor (18:31.539)
Yeah, no, I love that. And you're right, it is. It's a lifestyle change. People like, well, I don't want to live my life like that. Well, you won't be living as long, right? If you choose to go that path. And again, you just reemphasize that, you know, weight loss is the kitchen, not the gym. And for the non-workout people, they're probably like, okay, tell them this is good. So, all right, so we've got a good, we've got to start on the diet and we know we need to flip it. And again, at the end of the day, go back to the 820.

Emma Terrazas (18:41.083)

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Brett Trainor (18:59.139)
calories in calories out, right? I don't think there's any super diet that changes it. And again, get the fundamentals right. So, all right, so now again, we've got time to work out and maybe we didn't before. How do we approach or how do you get people, let's say that maybe they used to work out or didn't and now we wanna get back into it. How do we think about getting back into or starting for the first time exercise?

Emma Terrazas (19:24.886)
Yeah, super good question. What I see a lot is, you know, our brains are stronger than our bodies. And we're like, oh, I used to be able to lift this weight. Let me just pop right back to that. No, if you hear that phrase in your brain, remember this conversation and just take a step back because it is so important to start slow, meet yourself where you're at.

This is not a race. You don't, there's not a time limit, right? That's another thing about my client. One of my clients that she's loving is like, she doesn't feel rushed for once in her life to lose weight and like fit in her clothes. Just like, she just feels so much lighter about the process. And so if you're like, all right, I'm gonna start going to the gym and like whatever. A lot of times I see people just, I wanna run. I'm gonna start to run, especially the Chicago Marathon just ended.

People are very inspired, which is great, but if you haven't done any activity or very little and you just start to run, you're going to end up hurting yourself and then you're going to be set back even more. So, oh, and another thing that just kind of makes me laugh a little bit is that people are like, I'm going to lose weight, I'm going to sign up for a marathon. And I'm like, okay, cool, like that's amazing. I'm not a runner, so I see these runners. I'm like, good for you. But then what happens next?

Brett Trainor (20:28.359)

Emma Terrazas (20:48.31)
What's after that? The marathon's over and then what do you do? Right? Okay, so anyways, so you're gonna go work out to the gym. I have loved yoga. And I think that is so important for people of all ages because think of, again, the lifestyles that we're living. We're sitting, we're hunched over. Even 20 minutes, 10 minutes a day, as soon as you wake up is something I love to teach.

Brett Trainor (20:53.033)

Emma Terrazas (21:16.238)
As soon as your feet hit the floor, you're doing some stretches. Maybe it's, like literally just follow what your body is feeling if you don't know what to do. I would even go to YouTube and type in 10 minute morning yoga routine, right? There's so many free resources out there. That is really going to start your day off right. And then again, you're just like feeling loose and in the flow and then.

the rest of your day and your brain kind of follow suits in my experience and with the experience of my clients. Also just start with body weight stuff if you want to, like doing pushups, doing assisted pull-ups. That mobility again, and why I love yoga so much is so important because you can't expect to like do squats and lunges and add weight if your body's not ready for that, right? It's just asking too much. And I like to also think about and what people kind of forget.

is that our bodies are our best friends. Like they want us to succeed. They love us so much, no matter how much stress and pain we put on them, physically, emotionally, mentally, we, you know, talk down on ourselves. And I get emotional about this because it's so sad. So sad, it's like they do everything for us. And we just constantly abuse it.

Brett Trainor (22:37.132)

Brett Trainor (22:43.123)
Yeah, no, you're right. I don't know if it's always intentionally that we do, but, but you're right. And, you know, just to, um, bullet point your, your example, or I'll, I'm the example because I was running, I was doing these other things, doing some weightlifting, you know, the shoulder hurt, my knee was in pain. And again, a couple of years ago, I shut it down, started walking and did just the body weights, right? Pull ups at the park dips at the park. And that was it, you know, three or four times a week walking.

Emma Terrazas (22:44.522)
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Emma Terrazas (23:10.872)

Brett Trainor (23:11.991)
And over time, now I've started to add in some weights and do, you know, a high intensity. There's a place by is called hot works, which is like you, you do high intensity in a sauna for 15 minutes. It sounds awful to people, but when you get to be my age and you got that heat, it just, it's really good for the muscles. So to your point, this is, I flipped it from, how do I get in really good shape right now to, all right, if this is going to be the next 20 years, how do I build the blocks?

Emma Terrazas (23:24.578)
Yeah, yeah.

Brett Trainor (23:40.751)
And again, if I would have known this, I should have had this conversation with you four years ago because you would have saved me a couple of years of time. But yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm with you. There was the walking. Now I've built in a little bit of, you know, short, short burst running back in, but my body's actually hasn't felt this good in 10 plus years. So

Emma Terrazas (24:00.002)
Congrats, that's amazing.

Brett Trainor (24:00.095)
Um, just, just an example for your, uh, your point that I, you know, it does, it works. It again, you have to have the patience cause you're right. We want instant gratification. I'm going to cut 2000 calories out of my diet. I'm going to work out for four hours a day. One, you get hurt, you get burned out and then you're right back to, to where you were. So, um, yeah, so maybe that's, oh, go ahead. Sorry.

Emma Terrazas (24:18.478)
Yeah. I think that was something that can help you show up to, even if it's 10 minutes, even if it's just a walk around the block or, not gonna lie, this morning I did not wanna get out of bed and go to yoga and work out as much as I love it, right? It's just, we're humans and we're gonna try to talk ourselves out of the things that we need the most. Think of it as time for you. And this is kind of like where the mental,

Brett Trainor (24:39.362)

Emma Terrazas (24:47.862)
component comes in. Because again, you're working so hard, you're always have to be on during work. These mini breaks, really just try to be present and think of it as you time. And maybe it's you're not going to feel the benefit today, but it will compound over time. And then and then the next thing you know, you start craving that movement, you start craving the foods that are good for you. And that's

really the key to sustainable health and longevity and happiness, in my opinion.

Brett Trainor (25:23.135)
Yeah, you're right. It's, uh, the one tagline I use all the time still, and people get tired. Here is get outside every day. I don't care. Right. I we're both in the Chicago area and it's, it's not easy in January, but if I don't get outside, I try to do it twice early in the morning and then once at the end of the day, cause if I'm in the office all day, I need that to get outside and it makes you just walk, take a call out there. It's, it's now become up to your point. A part of the right routine versus, Oh God, I got to go do this again.

Emma Terrazas (25:32.34)


Brett Trainor (25:53.169)
type of thing. So, and I think that was a perfect transition because we into the mental side because I think that and I so agree and again wish I would have known earlier is to take care of yourself is going to help your business. It's going to help your relationships, going to help everything else but we've always been taught no it's got to be work you know burn the candle at both ends you get your business going don't worry about yourself but I think we're seeing

and even research, right? I'm sure you see it all the time. If you take care of yourself, you're going to perform better, you know, in all the other areas, right?

Emma Terrazas (26:27.786)
Yep, absolutely. And at the end of the day, you have to decide what's important to you, right? Like, it's funny, I don't know, sometimes I'll just like have these deep thoughts to myself. Like the end of the day, you know, you close your computer, you're with your family, you're like, you're going to the gym, whatever it is, and you're just with yourself. Like everything that has happened doesn't really matter.

So going back to like your body as your best friend, like you, if you don't have you and you don't feel like yourself and you're just kind of like, you know, something's missing, that's worth your time, in my opinion. Again, like you have to decide if that's important to you and it's work to figure it out, but it's always worth it.

Brett Trainor (27:10.338)

Brett Trainor (27:18.219)
Yeah, no, it makes sense. And I'm looking back at a couple of, I don't call them taglines, but you know, the next version of you, which is perfect, right? What is he, what do you want that next version to be? And, and, and the other thing is live life without limits. Right? So we're building these businesses, we're getting out of the rat race. And, but yet we're not building, you know, a life without limits, right? Cause we're slowing down or knee hurts or we're overweight. We can't move around. Kind of defeats the purpose of, of what we're doing. So.

Emma Terrazas (27:44.674)

Brett Trainor (27:48.433)
So from a mental standpoint, how do you encourage folks to start thinking? I mean, I love the analogy, your body is your best friend. If you don't have it, you're going to have challenges. So how do you help people reframe the mental approach to this? Is it more of a embrace the lifestyle change, small changes, or what works? Maybe there's probably no one size fits all, but how do we reframe this?

Emma Terrazas (28:14.864)
Yeah. I love that question.

Emma Terrazas (28:20.586)
I really think taking it day by day and really trying your best to become aware of the thoughts that you have that are on autopilot. And, cause there's gonna be hard days and there's gonna be easier days. Again, I'm always encouraging people to get like eight to 10,000 steps a day. And sometimes I look down on my watch and I'm like, okay, I had 3000 steps today. But it's...

Brett Trainor (28:47.71)
It's okay.

Emma Terrazas (28:49.866)
What am I gonna do differently tomorrow to make sure that I'm then kind of getting back to the person that I wanna be? Cause that's just life. So I think day by day, constantly adjusting the plan to what you need is super important.

Brett Trainor (29:11.179)
Yeah. And again, what's what helped me over time was moving away from that short term, you know, goal to, you know, it's a week on vacation and it's something where we're not going to be able to be active or we eat too much. It's okay. Right. It just, you slip back into the lifestyle. Cause again, I think we're building towards, I think we were just conditioned for way too many years to fit in this box, right? You know, you're working, I'm going to keep hammering the corporate side of it, but you're really limited. You're sitting behind.

desk, even with the pandemic, we were able to work from home. And I think people got a taste of, huh, there is balance in life. And how do I figure it out? And, you know, I really love your message of, you know, your body is your best friend. And how often do we actually take care of ourself first?

Rarely, right? And so I think reframing it and re-prioritizing that as you're going through this process is definitely going to help. So, and it's not easy, right? It's there's going to have good days, bad days, but in the end of that, it's, you're just going to be that much better off. And I'm guessing a lot of your clients are, we had the one that lost 40 pounds without really changing exercises. That's phenomenal, right? I think it's, that's again, we may not all be looking for that goal, but how do we feel a little better?

How do we have more energy? How do we take advantage of the days that we have, et cetera? So what else are we missing? Anything else big? I know we're hitting the 80-20 version of this, but I think it's so important for people to just start to think about this versus putting it off.

Emma Terrazas (30:32.278)

Emma Terrazas (30:45.026)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'd say also remember to try to have fun with it. Like, again, it's all an experiment. Don't be so rigid on yourself. It's all just, hey, how is this? How do I feel? How am I going to feel after I do this? And yeah, I think the key to doing that, too, is really just watching that processed food is.

is really big.

Brett Trainor (31:14.611)
Yeah. So at the end of the day, the bottom line is you don't have to reinvent everything. It's just taking little steps and, you know, focusing on it versus I'll get to that tomorrow or I'll do that next week and no time like the present. Like I tell folks. So.

Emma Terrazas (31:29.41)

Brett Trainor (31:31.143)
Interesting. All right. Well, I want to definitely be respectful of your time. And again, it's been, it's been too long since I've had somebody come out and talking about the other at the personal side of, you know, solo businesses and corporate escapees. So I do want to try, and I told you offline, I'm going to try something new for the podcast that I think I want to start incorporating. So I'm going to, I'm going to put you on the spot and ask you, Emma, what's, what's your next.

Emma Terrazas (31:58.334)
Yes, so I am so excited because ever since I started my business about five years ago, I've always wanted to live and work remote. That was a huge goal of mine. And, you know, COVID kind of put a little stop to that. And now next month, I'll be spending the month in Costa Rica.

Brett Trainor (32:17.927)
Oh, awesome. That's the beauty of it. And I know we talked a little bit offline that we may have a second episode coming out of this where we talk about blending your passions because one of your lines also is a multi-passionate resume. I'm like, yes, I love that, right? I mean, too often we're told to, you can only focus on one thing, right? Go all in, 100% do this. And what I'm finding is it's okay to have a number of smaller things that you're working on.

Emma Terrazas (32:33.223)

Brett Trainor (32:47.881)
is close to your core right you can't

you know, start a pet shop and then do coaching for fitness. I mean, you could, but that's just really hard. Everything you're talking about makes, makes sense. And I think people need to do that. And it goes back to, you know, one of the things I encourage folks all the time is define what success looks like for you, right? What do you really want? You know, I, and I use myself as an example, when I left corporate, it was, Hey, I just want to make more money or at least make the same amount of money and more money and do that. And then I said over this four years, it's become.

much more rounded right how do i get the health and the wellness piece out of it i want to be active till you know 100 not just live to 100 but be active to 100 and then what do we do from business standpoints it's you know i've got these expertise you know how do i start to leverage and make a number of smaller bets what i'd like to do so took this off track you made a couple of really good points i just wanted to re-emphasize was what do you want and don't be stuck to one thing it's

And you're not, are you going to relocate there? Or are you thinking more of a nomad type of lifestyle?

Emma Terrazas (33:55.646)
Yeah, I'll be there for a month and I'm coming back and back to being, you know, having experiments in your life. Like, I don't know if I'm going to like this nomadic lifestyle as I've told myself for the past five years. So the only way that I'm going to know is if I do it. And that's just like with this process too, and anything you don't know until you jump in, you have to like, you know, believe that the net is there before you jump. And, um, I just, I love your audience because it does.

Brett Trainor (34:11.115)

Emma Terrazas (34:24.362)
It takes so much guts and like courage to leave corporate and go for what you truly want, your dreams. But if you bet on yourself, if you take care of yourself, like there's no way you're going to fail and you're only gonna fail as if you stop.

Brett Trainor (34:44.691)
Yes. No, I love that. And for some of us, it was better late than never that we've discovered it. But what's that old saying, you know, the best time to start would have been yesterday, but the next best is today. Right. So use this as your marker. If you're listening to this podcast and you're, you're not where you want to be in these areas, this is your challenge to, you know, 30 days, see if you can't figure out what you want and start moving towards, towards that challenge. So Emma, thank, oh yeah, please.

Emma Terrazas (34:54.911)
Right. Yeah.

Emma Terrazas (35:08.49)
Yeah. There's one more thing I wanna say. So really quick back to like that multi- passionate life. When you are transitioning into a new identity as a business owner, as like a healthy person, right? It's okay to feel sad a bit and it's gonna be hard. And because you're kind of like killing off an old version of you that you have just held on to for so long.

So also allow yourself to change your identity and just be okay with that. And it's an experiment, right? Like, where can I go with this? Where's life gonna take me? Get excited about it, about the changes you're making. And yeah, you're gonna do great.

Brett Trainor (35:51.519)
Yeah, no, I love that. I think it's, it's true. And I know we're going to keep going on tangents, but that's okay. Because, you know, I refer back to, you know, Gen X and we were growing up. It was. Right. We came, I was latchkey kid, right. That came home by fourth grade. I was coming home to an empty house. Sometimes, you know, mom was home from work to have dinner ready. If not, you know, we had to figure it out. Our summers were literally, we, we joke about it and overgeneralized, but it was. You're out all day, you know, bottom lines just don't get seriously hurt.

Emma Terrazas (35:56.622)

Brett Trainor (36:21.433)
want to find you at the hospital and don't get into trouble. But short of that, we had to figure out everything else. And then we spend the next 30 plus years in corporate and it's, you know, you start off with all these great ideas and then just kind of, it rewards you to stay in, in the box or incremental changes. And again, it's okay. I learned a ton in corporate. So I think a lot of it is if you, you're old enough, you're going back to kind of the way you grew up and it seems scary at first, but then once you get out here,

Oh my God, why didn't I do this before? So long-winded exclamation point to what you said, but I'm with you. Exactly. So I know you're big on Instagram, so if folks wanna learn more, connect with you, what's the best way for them to find you?

Emma Terrazas (36:54.466)
Yes. Yeah, we can talk forever, I'm sure.

Emma Terrazas (37:09.482)
Yeah, I'm on Instagram and LinkedIn. It's Emma underscore Terrazas. T E R A Z A S.

Brett Trainor (37:17.727)
And we'll definitely put that in the show notes, but I highly encourage you to check it out. And again, as you're thinking, like I said, Emma, what I loved about your approach, it's, it's whole, right? It's not super hardcore into one specific area and kind of that's what we need. Let's get the 80 20. Then we can tweak and refine and do all these other things. So, so thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate it. And you know, we'll, we'll catch up with you here in that to distant future.

Emma Terrazas (37:42.346)
Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me and see you later.

Brett Trainor (37:46.458)
Have a great rest of your day.